English Defence League

Unfortunately, the English Defence League has banned me from their forums for, I can only assume, risking an internal conflict between its theists and atheists.

All members of the EDL have probably spent years wracking their brains trying to think of a solution to the creeping Islamisation of England. They are probably all in a state of partial rage at the situation the western world has been forced into against its wishes. I know this because I too have felt the same.

I handed them the perfect solution on a plate. It was perfect because it was a peaceful solution, it was a cheap solution, it was a fair solution for all concerned, it could have been a quick solution and, most importantly of all, it was based on the truth.

Unfortunately, it was obviously not good enough for the organisation that claims to want to defend England.

To the atheists of the EDL. Thank the theists of the EDL for preventing you from making use of the silver bullet I offered you all. In time, some of you will remember when a woman said it was better to sacrifice Yahweh, the imaginery desert nomad genocidal volcano deity who apparently liked the smell of burning flesh, in order to save England and you will realise how stupid and cowardly the EDL was for not doing it.

Judges 1

Judges 1.....an honest appraisal.

It seems Christians are very good at sniffing out evil wherever they find it unless it's right under their noses in their Bible, or should I say in the Hebrew Bible? To them, genocide is not genocide if it is written in the Old Testament. It suddenly becomes 'necessary divine justice'. Apparently, some towns were so 'evil' and did such 'evil' things that it was necessary to completely.....um......clean the land. Nothing to do with just wanting to grab the land off its occupants then?

 Yes, that does sound just like what the Nazis would say to justify their cleansing of Jews. But Christians don't realise they are condoning Nazi-like genocide. They have been so effectively warped they think their Lord did the right thing in even killing babies.

I debated with a Christian woman who claimed that killing babies of enemies using 'divine justice' (genocide) was not a big issue as those babies would be taken from an evil situation and put into heaven, an apparently non-evil situation. Well, the Nazis believed as everything was an illusion anyway, killing millions of people was just like switching out a light....no more consequential than that.

So, let's take a closer look at Judges 1 and see how much 'Jesus' we can find in it.

1.After the death of Joshua, the Israelites asked the Lord, “Who of us is to go up first to fight against the Canaanites?” ² The Lord answered, “Judah shall go up; I have given the land into their hands.”

Given 'than land'. That is a bit of a giveaway. Land grab.

4. When Judah attacked, the Lord gave the Canaanites and Perizzites into their hands, and they struck down ten thousand men at Bezek.

Nice...choppy choppy.

6. Adoni-Bezek fled, but they chased him and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and big toes.

How very Talibanesque.

8. The men of Judah attacked Jerusalem also and took it. They put the city to the sword and set it on fire.

They burnt Jerusalem, the 'holy' city? Nothing changes.

⁹ After that, Judah went down to fight against the Canaanites living in the hill country, the Negev and the western foothills. ¹⁰ They advanced against the Canaanites living in Hebron (formerly called Kiriath Arba) and defeated Sheshai, Ahiman and Talmai. ¹¹ From there they advanced against the people living in Debir (formerly called Kiriath Sepher).

'Advanced against'......meaning....went in to kill and plunder.

¹² And Caleb said, “I will give my daughter Aksah in marriage to the man who attacks and captures Kiriath Sepher.” ¹³ Othniel son of Kenaz, Caleb’s younger brother, took it; so Caleb gave his daughter Aksah to him in marriage.

Forced marriage.

¹⁷ Then the men of Judah went with the Simeonites their fellow Israelites and attacked the Canaanites living in Zephath, and they totally destroyed^[c] the city. Therefore it was called Hormah.^{[d] 18} Judah also took^[e] Gaza, Ashkelon and Ekron—each city with its territory.

More genocide and ethnic cleansing.

²² Now the tribes of Joseph attacked Bethel, and the Lord was with them. ²³ When they sent men to spy out Bethel (formerly called Luz), ²⁴ the spies saw a man coming out of the city and they said to him, “Show us how to get into the city and we will see that you are treated well.” ²⁵ So he showed them, and they put the city to the sword but spared the man and his whole family.

Trickery, spying, genocide.

²⁷ But Manasseh did not drive out the people of Beth Shan or Taanach or Dor or Ibleam or Megiddo and their surrounding settlements, for the Canaanites were determined to live in that land. ²⁸ When Israel became strong, they pressed the Canaanites into forced labor but never drove them out completely.

Why should they give up their land? Wanted to live in their land! Of course they wanted to live in THEIR land! Poor buggers ended up as slaves in their own land.

³⁰ Neither did Zebulun drive out the Canaanites living in Kitron or Nahalol, so these Canaanites lived among them, but Zebulun did subject them to forced labor.

More enslavement of the occupants of Canaan.

33 and those living in Beth Shemesh and Beth Anath became forced laborers for them.

More enslavement of the occupants of Canaan.

³⁵ And the Amorites were determined also to hold out in Mount Heres, Aijalon and Shaalbim, but when the power of the tribes of Joseph increased, they too were pressed into forced labor.

More forced labour.


Now you can try to rationalise it as much as the best bullshitting Christian can but who will you be trying to kid? Me, you, the world?

Does Judge 1 sound more like Jesus or Mohammad?

That question obviously does not need to be answered.



Here is what the religious Jews in Israel think of Goy (you)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNGkqWRW_o

and here is what they think of Jesus...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA6vRC1xW_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOKEvNfFDnc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWHAavagtNo

Judeo-Christian?

What a joke!

Christianity and Judaism are two distinct religious inheritances, despite all the superficial attempts by modern scholars to manufacture a naive "Judeo-Christianity." The very term "Judeo-Christian" is a mischievous misnomer without historical or Scriptural validity.

Read full article here.

God was a volcano

This video is a good intruduction into the theory the Abrahamic god of Judaism, Islam and Christianity, was an imaginery volcano god.

Mount Sinai was a volcano in Arabia, probably NW Saudi, the burning bush was a flaming gas leak, the ten plagues of Egypt were caused by the fallout of the Santorini eruption, brimstone was sulfur from volcanoes, the lake of fire was a lava filled crater........

God/Allah was an imaginery volcano god. That means there is no god and no allah. So, if you have arrived here after seeing a comment on an anti-Islam blog then maybe you should realise the significance of this revelation and start bloody well putting your efforts into something that could actually achieve results.....bring an end to Islam. If that is really what you want of course. I am fairly sure some blog owners will not want that as they earn money from this problem and they also have egos that would be hurt by this massive change in approach. They would suddenly have to re-assess their attitude to a few things and change their speech, and some will not want to do that.

Why not join the small but active number of people who are commited to this theory and aim to destroy Islam in a more intellectual way....no fighting, no attacking....just educating them on the origins of their religion. Are you prepared to pay the high price for the freedom from Islam? Are you prepared to give up hope of god...to surrender him to the funeral pyre of history's gods along with allah? How much do you want to liberate Europe from the grip of Islam?

Start learning about this theory here.

Volcano Gods

To see the new site listing VOLCANO GODS please click here.




VOLCANO GODS......and their commonalities.....


BROUGHT PEOPLE OUT OF BONDAGE

Pagan Volcano Gods

Anganju's significance in Cuba in the past is most probably due in part to the fact that he was said to have delivered people out of bondage and helped one to carry the heaviest of burdens.

Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Exodus 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.



OFFERINGS / SACRIFICES / APPEASEMENT

Pagan Volcano Gods

When the gods seem restless, believers make offerings of vegetables, money, chickens, and even goats to appease them as well as to bring prosperity.

Oldoinyo Lengai is also a holy mountain for the Maasai people, just like Namibia’s Ovahimba people believe in their holy fire. He said the Maasai people use the mountain as a site to conduct rituals such as sacrifices and prayers.

The (Inca) children were sacrificed as part of a religious ritual, known as capacocha. They walked hundreds of miles to and from ceremonies in Cuzco and were then taken to the summit of Llullaillaco (yoo-yeye-YAH-co), given chicha (maize beer), and, once they were asleep, placed in underground niches, where they froze to death. Only beautiful, healthy, physically perfect children were sacrificed, and it was an honor to be chosen. According to Inca beliefs, the children did not die, but joined their ancestors and watched over their villages from the mountaintops like angels. 

The name "Fuji" most likely derives from an Ainu word meaning "fire" or "deity of fire". The Japanese believed that the god was very powerful, so it needed to be placated. A shrine was built at the foot of the volcano in AD 806 in order to keep the mountain from erupting.

Masaya (Mayan volcano god). The Chorotega people used to sacrifice virgins by throwing them into the volcano, hoping that the Goddess would provide divine oracles in return for the sacrifice.

Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

If the offering to the LORD is a burnt offering of birds, he is to offer a dove or a young pigeon. Leviticus 1:14



BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL/

Monadalkni flew into a rage and called down the Curse of Fire. The top of Moy-Yaina exploded. Five great bursts sent ash, boulders and fire high into the sky. A devastating flood of flame and hot stones swept across the forests. Gmok'am'c, the Good Chief who made his dwelling on Mt. Shasta, heard their prayers and was moved by their sacrifice. He came down to battle the Chief of the World Below. The battle was terrible. The two mountains threw fire and rocks at each other. At last, the Good Chief thrust Monadalkni under Moy-Yaina, jamming debris down the entrance to the underworld to seal it.

Christians of Europe saw Hekla as a doorway to the underworld and as one of two known entrances to Hell or Purgatory. When people would see lava bombs and other projectiles fly from the volcanoes crater, they believed the fragments were actually spirits. These bombs often hissed as they flew (due to the cooler temperature of the air) and these noises were interpreted as the souls screaming out in pain. Because Hekla was associated with the underworld, people abroad also thought that it was a meeting place for witches and magicians and patrons of dark magic. Still others saw Iceland's jagged lava flows and rugged mountains as an ancient battlefield. It was on this battlefield where immortal gods had once waged war against one another. As they fought, they had shaped the land with blows of fists and swords. Nearly every myth and legend about the volcano is in some way connected to evil and the demonic.

The Klamath Indians of the pacific Northwest tell a legend about a fight between two chiefs. Llao was the chief of the Below World and was at Mount Mazama in Oregon. Skell was the chief of the Above World and stood at the summit of Mount Shasta in northern California. The two mountains are only a hundred miles apart. As darkness covered the land the two chiefs threw rocks and flames at each other. Llao, injured, fell back inside of Mount Mazama and was never seen again.


CHARIOTS / CARRIAGES

Pagan Volcano Gods

They believe that when it expels hot lava, Merapi is really sending golden carriages to the South Sea, the kingdom of Nyai Ratu Kidul (Queen of the South Sea), for the feast.

However, he (Agni) is feared by nature. When he gets angry he can burn trees with his fire and burns the grass with his chariot’s wheels while raging thru the forest.

Pele is a skilled rider of the holua, a wooden sled that slides down steep stone ramps. Papalauahi and and other chiefs challenged Pele to see who was the best holua rider. Papalauahi proved by far to be the most skilled. Pele lost her temper. She produced a great flood of lava which overran many of the other chiefs and onlookers.

MOUNT Cameroon, also called Mount Fako, also called Buea Mountain but most fondly called “The chariot of the gods” is the only mountain in Cameroon which has also been recorded as a volcanic mountain, with a horrifying eruption record Cameroonians have been trying to erase from memory for over 10 years. Mount Fako is believed to be guarded from erupting again by a man-eater god named Epasa Moto. Efasa-Moto is the folkloric god of the Fako Mountain.

Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Isaiah 66:15 See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Psalm 104:3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.

Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!



GOD THE ALMIGHTY

Pagan Volcano Gods

According to Javanese culture expert Suryanto Sastroatmodjo, in Javanese culture a volcano occupies an important position. It is also referred to as the Sang Hyang Dahana Giri, a representation of the possessor of the universe, God the Almighty.



CHIMNEY / FURNACE

Pagan Volcano Gods

Centuries ago, the people living in this area believed that Vulcano was the chimney of the forge of Vulcan - the blacksmith of the Roman gods.

When Hephaestus got angry he would heat up his furnace until the volcanoes would erupt.  When he works, sparks and flames fly out of the volcanoes that he works in.

Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

1 Kings 8:51 For they be thy people, and thine inheritance, which thou broughtest forth out of Egypt, from the midst of the furnace of iron.

Deut. 4.11, 12 and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.



ANGER/REVENGE

Pagan Volcano Gods

Goddess Pele was and still is famous for the different forms she can be and for the fiery rage she would go into when her temper got high. Some Hawaiians believe that Pele can cause earthquakes by stamping her feet and volcanic eruptions by striking the ground with a stick. The chain of volcanoes in Hawaii were formed when Pele and her older sister Namakaokahai had a fight.

Mt. Fuji is the source of many myths, underscoring its importance in Japanese society; it has been the home of multiple deities, including the goddess Sengen, also known as the Goddess of Fuji, whose temple was once said to reside on the summit of the mountain (1). In the days of religious pilgrimages to Mt. Fuji, it is said that Sengen would throw from the mountain any pilgrims that were impure of heart (1).

Many interpret an eruption on Merapi as a sign that the volcano deity has been disrespected by improper behavior or thought.

He said when the mountain (Oldoinyo Lengai) erupts the Maasai people believe that their God is angry and they have to go to the mountain to placate him with prayers.

The Klamath stories say that quarrels began, and war broke out between Llao and Skell. of Mount Mazama.

There are two myths involving the recent eruption of Mount Tarawera in 1886. One of these legends blames the eruption on the people of Te Ariki village for eating forbidden honey. Those in the village that ate the honey were killed, while people in nearby villages who did not eat it were allowed to live. 


Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.

Numbers 16:35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.

Hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire."

Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.

Psalm 97:3 Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side.

Hebrews 10:27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

Psalm 78:49 He unleashed against them his hot anger, his wrath, indignation and hostility--a band of destroying angels.



MIRACULOUS PREGNANCY AND BIRTH OF A SON

Konohana Sakuya Hime, Goddess of Mt. Fuji ...There special ceremonies celebrate her miraculous pregnancy and the birth of her son in the midst of a fire.



SERPENTS / RIVERS OF FIRE

Pagan Volcano Gods

Pompeii - Casa de Centenario

At the center of each patio, families built small shrines consisting of mountains modeled from clay, stone, and potsherds crowned with crudely carved heads humans or serpents. Some are clearly effigies of Popocatépetl. Beneath each carved stone head is a chimney that leads to a charcoal-filled chamber dug in the patio floor. Smoke would have puffed out from under each head in imitation of the ash and vapor plumes expelled from the crater during volcanic activity.  The most fascinating part of Sahagún's account is that the mountain models are given human faces. In fact, the Spanish text indicates that each mountain was given two faces, one human and one serpent.

Behaviors attributed to Wy'east include hurtling of hot rocks from gaping holes, sending forth streams of liquid fire, loss of formerly high summits, and choking of valleys with rocks.

(Aztecs) In fact, the Spanish text indicates that each mountain was given two faces, one human and one serpent. The dual nature of the mountains described in the Florentine Codex recalls the human and serpent images that crown the volcano effigies of the village shrines and suggests a conceptual continuity that spans some 1,500 years.

Because Erciyes was always snow-covered, the Hittites (second millennium to 1200 BC) called it "Harkasos" or "White Mountain." The Hittite pantheon included a number of mountain gods, including Erciyes. From the region of Imamkulu in Cappadocia, a 13th century BC Hittite rock carving depicting a storm god above three mountain gods, furnishes proof of the Hittite veneration of Cappadocian volcanoes. A Hittite bas-relief from Malatya dating from 1000 BC portrays the weather god (prototype of Zeus) slaying a coiled serpent. Flames and volcanic bombs issue from the serpent's body, which might symbolize volcanoes.



Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Daniel 7:10 A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.


ANTHROPOMORPHISM

Pagan Volcano Gods

(Copied from above)  The most fascinating part of Sahagún's account (on Popocatepetl) is that the mountain models are given human faces. In fact, the Spanish text indicates that each mountain was given two faces, one human and one serpent.

The Gikuyu people believe their god, Ngai or Mwene Nvaga, lived on the top of Mount Kenya when he came down from the sky. They believed the mountain is the earthly throne of their god. The father of the tribe, Gikuyu, was said to meet with god on the top of the mountain. Source.

The farmers who live on the flanks of Popocatépetl today see the volcano in human terms.

A male being with long wavy hair, (Popocatepetl) thought by some to represent the smoke tendrils that unfurl from the crater.

In 1993, the carbonatite has extruded forming the white top of Oldoinyo Lengai and this white peak in the heart of the Maasailand is thought to represent the beard of the Maasai God, which is why the Maasai people call it the Mountain of God (Oldoinyo Lengai is the world’s only active volcano).

THE OUREA were the Protogenoi (primeval gods) or rustic Daimones (spirits) of the mountains. Each and every Mountain was said to have its own ancient bearded god. Mountains were occasionally depicted in classical art as bearded old men rising up from between their craggy peaks.

Pele is the Hawaiian goddess of volcanoes and fire. Pele had long thin strands of hair – which are supposed to represent the very runny lava produced by the volcano Kilauea, where she lives.

They made the images of each one of them in human form, from the dough which is called tzoalli, and they laid offerings before these images in veneration of these same mountains." The most fascinating part of Sahagún's account is that the mountain models are given human faces. (Aztec Popocatépetl). The farmers who live on the flanks of Popocatépetl today see the volcano in human terms. To them he is Gregorio. Since the eruption, the name Don Gregorio and the nickname Don Goyo have come into general usage. A male being with long wavy hair, thought by some to represent the smoke tendrils that unfurl from the crater.

Masaya (Mayan volcano god) is depicted as an old crone with black skin, drooping breasts, and white wispy hair, similar to the gases that rise from the volcano in Nicaragua that is named for her.

 Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

Isaiah 30:27 See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.

Isaiag 30:30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall show the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

PSA 18:8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.

Daniel 7:9 "As I looked, "thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; :15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.



OFFERINGS OR BURIALS IN CAVES

Pagan Volcano Gods

Tradition requires that he (Popocatepetl) be venerated with offerings placed in sacred caves high on the slopes of the mountain.

The poet Virgil claimed that Mount Etna, in Sicily, is the place where the gods buried the giant Enceladus.

(Aztec Popocatépetl). Tradition requires that he be venerated with offerings placed in sacred caves high on the slopes of the mountain, an example of the general Mesoamerican metaphor of caves on mountains and temples on pyramids.



LOVERS / SISTERS / WIVES

Pagan Volcano Gods

Popocatapetl was a warrior who fell in love with Iztaccihuatl (they were two adjacent volcanoes). Iztaccihuatl's father, however, did not favour the match and sent Popocatapetl to war, promising Iztaccihuatl as his bride when he returned. Iztaccihuatl's father lied to her and told her that Popocatapetl was dead, and she died from grief. When Popocatapetl returned to find his love dead, he carried her up to the top of a mountain and climbed to the top of an adjacent mountain, carrying a torch to keep watch over her. As time passed, snow covered the lovers and formed the two mountains Iztaccihuatl (which resembles a woman lying on her side) and Popocatapetl. Popocatepetl's torch smokes to this day.

Another tale tells the story of a quarrel between Pele and her older sister Namakaokahai, which led to the creation of the volcanic Hawaiian islands.

Filipino legend has it that the moon god, Apung Mallari, angered the sun god, Apung Suku. Apung Suku flung boulders at Apung Mallari's home, Mt Pinatubo. Apung Mallari's daughter tried to stop her uncle from destroying her home, but was struck down by a boulder. In grief and despair, Apung Mallari hid himself deep inside Mt Pinatubo, never to be heard from again until the day of June 15, 1991, when Mt Pinatubo erupted catastrophically.

Legend has it that the great Tengger Crater was dug out with just half a coconut shell by an ogre smitten with love for a princess. When the king saw that the ogre might fulfill the task he had set, which was to be completed in a single night, he ordered his servants to pound rice. This caused the cocks to start crowing, thinking the dawn had broken. The coconut that the ogre flung away became Gunung Batok, and the trench became the Sand Sea - and the ogre died of exhaustion."
_{From: Java a Lonely Planet travel survival kit by Peter Turner.}

In another myth, the volcanoes Tongariro, Taranaki, and Ruapehu were all giants. Taranaki and Ruapehu fell in love with Tongariro and proceeded to fight for her. Taranaki threw himself at Ruapehu, but Ruapehu sprayed scalding water from his lake one Taranaki. In retaliation, Taranaki threw stones at Ruapehu destroying his once beautiful summit. Ruapehu was able to swallow the fragments of his cone, melt them, and spit them back at Taranaki. Taranaki retreated up the coast to where he lives now, plotting his revenge (Vitaliano, 1973).

The Maoris also have a legend involving two extinct volcanic cones made of basalt named Kakepuku and Kawa. Kakepuku loved Kawa but had to fight several opponents in order to win her over. 

Abrahamic Volcano Gods 'Yahweh'

According to a British theologian, who says the Almighty, also known as 'Yahweh', had a wife - a goddess named 'Asherah'. J. Edward Wright, president of The Arizona Center for Judaic Studies and The Albright Institute for Archaeological Research, supported Stavrakopoulou's findings, saying several Hebrew inscriptions mention Yahweh and his Asherah.



CREATION STORY

Pagan Volcano Gods

The Koryak believe that creation began when the great raven swooped over the sea and dropped a feather, thus creating Kamchatka. Once he established land he created men to inhabit his creation. After some time Kutkh created a woman and placed her within the land for the men to continue creation. She was very beautiful and all of the men fell in love with her, desiring her affection deeply. As the men died they became mountains, turning the originally flat land into mountains. The mountains turned to volcanoes as the hearts of the men with in each mountain still burnt with fiery love for the woman. It is the hearts of these original men that created the mountains, which shaped the peninsula into what it is today.

The creation of Mt. Fuji is itself a matter of legend in Japan - the tale goes that the mountain was born in a single day.

The Modoc Indians of northern California have lived in the area a long time and have seen the volcano erupt. Their oral tradition explains how the volcano formed. The Chief of the Sky Spirits was cold in the Above World. One day he used a rotating stone to drill a hole in the sky. Once the hole was finished he pushed in snow and ice. The snow and ice piled up and almost reached the sky. Then, the Chief of the Sky Spirits stepped down to the Earth. He created the trees, rivers, animals, fish, and birds.



BURIAL POSITIONS

Pagan Volcano Gods

The Balinese sleep with their heads toward nearby volcanoes. And when the residents of Flores, the Nage, die they’re usually buried with their feet pointing in the direction of the ocean and their head toward Mount Ebulobo.

Abrahamic Volcano God 'Yahweh'

The deceased is laid in the grave (without a coffin if permitted by local law) on his or her right side, facing Mecca.  Source.

The traditional Christian method of positioning the coffin or shroud covered body in the grave was to have the body with the head to the west, feet to the east. The body was placed face up. When it was not practical to use the west-east position for the grave, a north-south positioning was the next best option. There the body would then be laid on its side, head to the north and facing east. Source.

Jews are buried facing – that is, with toes facing - Jerusalem’s Temple Mount. Source.




BURIAL PLACE

The Ancient Egyptians buried their dead in tombs in the hills.

(More to come)



BANNING OF NAME

Pagan Volcano Gods

A number of taboos also surround Merapi. One includes a prohibition on mentioning the volcano by name. Locals believe that to do so could bring them bad luck. When referring to Mt. Merapi they therefore prefer to use the words ""Si Mbah"" instead.Si Mbah means ""elderly person"" or ""respected figure"", used for the volcano as an expression of respect.

For a long time they kept Giiwaas -- their name for Crater Lake -- a secret, fearing and revering it, visiting it only for spirit quests.

NOTE TO GOD

NOTE TO GOD.

Dear God,

I know you are wrathful because you are spewing out smoke from your nostrils and pouring out volcanic lava down your mountain like rivers of fire. It is coming from before you in every direction, so you must be very very mad. We're not sure what we have done wrong so we shall get very paranoid wracking our brains to try to work it out. You sure do spot absolutely everything bad we do don't you? Nothing escapes your notice.

We have killed lots of animals in a very precise way, as we are sure you have seen, but you are still angry. You have shot out fire and brimstone at us, which hurt a lot. What did we do to upset you? We must make our rules more strict and enforce them with an iron fist in order to appease you. We must even go to the lengths of stoning young women who dare kiss their boyfriends. You seem so easy to upset that we feel every single indiscetion must be stamped, or stoned, out. Rest assured, we are doing everything we can to ensure your complete satisfaction.

We were wondering when it might be possible to finally meet you. We know you are in residence by the fire and smoke on the top of the mountain and the rivers of lava fire pouring down the mountain. Why can you not just stick your head out to say hello? You remind us of the wizard in The Wizard of Oz. Can't you metaphorically peep from around the curtain? We just want to say hello to our god. It is a mystery.

I know you were the god that brought us out of Egypt because all the signs are the same....darkness, smoke, clouds, hail (not normal hail but volcano hail), lightning, loud noises, etc. We were told what you looked like when you resided inside Santorini. Gosh....what a show you put on! You sure are the god of gods. Never in our lives have we heard of such an awesome god. You gave us the opportunity to get out of Egypt with lots of gold and treasure so we are eternally grateful to you. We saw your ensign as we travelled: your column of smoke during the day and the column of fire at night. We were so excited to see it as it matched what we had heard about your Santorini show. Wow! The amazing god that destroyed the Egyptians had gone ahead of us to lead us to him! We feel honoured, special even. Yes! We are so special and so grateful to you, our Lord, for choosing us. We shall never ever forget how you helped us steal all that gold and leggit into the desert.

Why is there so much FIRE IN THE BIBLE?

Why was there so much FIRE IN THE BIBLE?

That is a question all Christians should be asking themselves and their vicars and the fact they are not doing that and have not been doing that is possibly the most amazing phenomena in the history of mankind. The human mind is a truly amazing thing; what it can make a person do is staggering.

The reason why there is so much fire in the Bible is because Yahweh, the god of the ancient Hebrews, was a nature god....specifically a volcano god. In other words, there is no god but the Hebrews believed there was one sitting on the top of an erupting volcano. I will keep adding verses later on. Please spread the good news that none of us will suffer any fiery wrath. Kids will love you for it.

Deuteronomy 4:11
And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness.

Deuteronomy 5:23
And it came to pass, when ye heard the voice out of the midst of the darkness, (for the mountain did burn with fire,) that ye came near unto me, even all the heads of your tribes, and your elders;
Deuteronomy 32:22
For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Ezekiel 28:14
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Ezekiel 28:16
By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Deuteronomy 33:2
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
Genesis 19:24
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

God Was a Volcano???

Spoof commentary of imaginery third party with multiple personality disorder....

Exodus 20:18And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

Smoking mountain? Hmmm....tough one that one. What the hell could a smoking mountain be? Thunders and lightning....yes, both common during eruptions. Trumpet blast? Ok, so volcanoes make trumpet sounds due to the magma shooting up the chamber just like blowing into a horn.....but I can't possibly admit to not being in the know. What?!! Are you crazy? I need more evidence.

Exodus 20:21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

'Thick darkness'. Getting closer....getting hotter!!! I need more evidence though as I'm living in a bubble that suits my lifestyle and my wardrobe of clothes would be good for nothing if my bubble burst.

Exodus 20:24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen.

Gross! Choppy choppy! Ok, so volcano cults set up altars at the base of volcanoes and proceed to slit lots of throats and do lots of blood letting. Isn't the wine in church a symbol of blood? Aren't the candles symbols of fire on the altar? It's just too gross to acknowledge. I need more evidence!

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

Thunder...check. Lightning.....check...thick cloud on top of mountain....double check. Trumpet sound......check. Frightening.....check. But I don't WANT to believe it! I'd be ordinary like everyone else if I did. I haven't got a clue how to be ordinary. Do they do classes? I need more evidence!!!

Exodus 19:18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. 19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder

Smoke everywhere! Oh Lord, what kind of god lives in a mountain covered in smoke??! The smoke of a furnace??? Like loads of thick smoke going up in a 'column of smoke'? Ok, that column of smoke is remeniscent of the column of smoke that the Hebrews walked towards when they left Egypt. That column looked like fire at night and smoke by day. Hmmmm...... Ok, I'd be a damn fool to deny it but I'd rather be a fool than accept it because if I accept it I will have to do something about it and I'm sooo scared!!! I've not changed my mind on anything since I decided I did in fact like sprouts. I need more evidence!

Exodus 24: 15 And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount. 16 And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 17 And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

Oh holy smoke!!! God's glory is fire??? The glory of god is lava coming out of a volcano? Are you telling me that all I need to enjoy a bit of divine glory is to gaze at the one bar fire in my bathroom with the lights off? Hey, you know what, I've done that and it does make you go kinda glazed and wooey. I'm buying a THREE bar fire today and will have a triple glory fest! Glory glory glory!!! But I still don't buy this volcano god idea because I like to be the first to come up with great ideas and therefore I'm going to scupper your plans and enjoy your suffering. Ha! Ok, show me one more bit of juicy evidence and you might just sway my stubborn butt.

Exodus 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him. 30.And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him. 33.And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face. 2 Corinthians 3:13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away.

He was staring at a three bar fire on the top of the mountain and knew he was being naughty so covered it up with a pashmina! I know how rosie it makes your cheeks! Ha...you thought you were so clever with your volcano god idea but all along I had the answer! No....not a volcano, not a spaceship, not a god but a three bar fire!

Deuternonomy 33:2

Deuteronomy 33:2

He said: "The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.

Yahweh's holy ones were smoking fissures on the mountain slopes of volcanoes

 because Yahweh was a volcano god.

Where did the term 'My Rock' come from?

Why were rocks first seen as something to rely upon?

Psalm 28:1 Unto thee will I cry, O LORD my rock; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit.

Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.

Deut 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Deut 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.

Deut 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

2 Samuel 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;

2 Samuel 22:3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

2 Samuel 22:47 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.

2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.

Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Psalm 61:2 From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.


VOLCANOES.

Images of Mount Sinai

MOUNT SINAI

This image of Mount Sinai, produced by Oh My Volcano, is an honest and accurate representation of the real Biblical Mount Sinai, wherever it may be. It most certainly is not the one hoards of tourists visit in the Sinai Peninsular, the Peninsular being named after the Biblical mount and not the other way around.

Mount Sinai was a volcano, a fact that is very clear to see on reading Exodus. It is blatant imaginery volcano god worship, which of course means the Abrahamic religions are built on very shaky ground.

This image will be added to my other post on images of Mount Sinai.

Please now take a long look through this list of Biblical verses that strongly suggest Yahweh, the god of the Hebrews/the Abrahamic god, was an imaginery volcano god.

Nahum 1:5-6 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.



God was a volcano

An email recently received from another 'crank', as those who are the first to see previously overlooked things are often labeled......published with permission.....
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Hi there.
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I apologize if this is an unwanted email, but I have to say I think you are right on the money! I have been saying and theorizing for years about Volcano worship being the underlying meaning behind the Abrahamic Religions. I study (as an amateur) anthropology, archaeology,ancient religions, and paleoclimatology. Now I don't have any college courses or degrees to back my claims so often I am dismissed as blasphemous or just talking out my rear end. I am an Atheist.
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I was raised Evangelical Christian and was forced to sit through a Preacher's rhetoric every Sunday. My ex stepmother would often not allow me to go to the children's services, and dictated that I needed to learn the words of God. I would often read this fool's interpretations and rhetoric while imagining the truth by putting myself in the Biblical times and seeing the way they lived through their own superstitions. The Bible I had contained maps of ancient Judah and Israel in their respective times. These became vital to me in keeping my attention so it appeared I was being a good little Christian boy. So at 7 years old I discovered that "God" was a metaphor for global events and catastrophies. Then at 14 my father divorced the fanatic and allowed me to pursue my own beliefs as long as I promised to find my own truth and do it with respect to other religions. So I figured "why not?" and started looking nto other religions and their creation myths.
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Well...the only logical place for me to go next was temples. Then I started noticing pyramid temples were always near some sort of volcanic activity. While Egypt itself wasn't near any major volcanic activity, the Thera eruption of 1628 BC would have had a major impact upon all surrounding regions. It is believed to be the major factor in the fall of the Minoan Empire which in turn allowed the rise of the Mycenean Empire. Things started adding up. Then the Bible verses and research I was doing began to collide too often to be ignored. I started looking at maps and media devices such as Google Earth to help give me an extended, geological view of the religious world. Every single religion is and was founded in or near some sort of tectonic or volcanic region! I had found my truth!
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But my truth, as stated above, was dismissed and laughed at. I went to churches and temples to ask my questions and was met by clergy who insisted I was tainted and seduced by the Devil and attempted to save me from myself. Then I stumble onto your page. Absolutely amazing to see you have the exact same ideas and theories I do. I have been attempting to sit down and write a book to teach others who might be as awakened or open-minded the things I have learned myself. As you may imagine, it hasn't gotten past opening my Microsoft Word and staring at a blank screen for 15 minutes before giving up due to lack of encouragement. You may just have renewed my vigor.
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I have ran into the Richard Dawkins before and you are correct....they will only hear what fits into what they think is right and if you approach them from outside their box, they shut their box and deny access so that they don't have to think anymore than is necessary to maintain their authority on the subject.
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Again, I'm completely an amateur. However, I think that amateur has nothing to do with finding one's own truths and seeing something that is right there in front of you in so many words and verses. I don't seek to unseat or disprove any religion. I have a great deal of admiration and respect for those with the faith I can no longer hold true to. I only intend to reach out to a community or population that can see outside the box and at least entertain the idea instead of a complete dismissal.
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I would really love to pick your brain, so to speak, and see if there is anything I might learn or be missing from my own studies..........

The Latest on the Leviathan

I've decided to try to get the expert community to take a look at my Leviathan theory. I have updated the post, which you can find here.

Plus this thread is a good example of how people who call themselves Christians debate such topics....

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?153104-The-origins-of-the-Leviathan/page5

This is what one Christian said about my theory on first seeing it....

I think your premise is quite plausible.

and on discovering I was an atheist....

I think any insistence of a fable interpretation, or a “mistaken identity”, is problematic. we are reducing God’s word (IMO) to a collection of histories inspired by men, not of God. This is the consequence of such an interpretation of Leviathan as a mistaken identity. If the Bible is to be understood as God breathed, then such mistaken identities cannot exist. Leviathan can be considered symbolic, anthropomorphic or literal; but a mistaken identity should be ruled out.

and after the debate became a school playground....

if you want to try and convince me that my faith is on par with paganism, then I am not interested in even a conversation. Sorry, but I am not here for that reason, and I don't think that such discussions will profit either one of us.
So, at first, he could see the validity in the theory. Then, when he realised the implications, he backed out. He clearly states that anything that threatens his faith is not a subject of discussion for him, although he will happily try to make me become as deluded as he. He clearly needs to realise what anthropomorphism, (which he admits occurs throughout the Bible) means because it mostly occurred due to mistaken identity and not through choice. He even admits that angels was anthropomorphised fire.

Stuck like glue.

Banned from Richard Dawkins

'The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.' Richard Dawkins.

Yes, I've been banned from the Richard Dawkins discussion forum. I think I started off on the wrong foot, long before posting any comments, when I emailed the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science. I never got a reply to my emails regarding the volcano theory, which was probably rejected outright without any thought, given it requires something most atheists are simply not prepared to do....use the Bible to decode the Bible. Nope, that is way too extreme for atheists. What a silly suggestion! It was all a (very weird and boring) fairytale and be prepared to be silenced if you dare say otherwise.

I also gradually submitted maybe three or four discussions and waited to see if they would get accepted. I thought they were well written and interesting, but all were clearly rejected in favour of very infrequent and very mundane subjects such as a request for advice on raising a baby with or without religion. Dumbed down discussions or what?!

In discussions on god on his discussion page, any mention of 'volcano' by me was deleted and I got a warning. It's not easy to speak in the same way about Gawd when you know what he was! You can never go back to doing the aimless chat; it all naturally becomes very direct. Obviously, direct purposeful discussion is not wanted amongst atheists whereas lots of boasting and mocking is. So my tongue was tied completely, which was of course what happened to atheists not so long ago under Christian rule. Luckily for me, there is no death penalty for speaking out of line with the foot soldiers of whatever faction you are trying to enlighten!

The best known atheist, or one of his minions, cannot stomach the possibility someone knows something he doesn't. I had a lot of respect for him prior to my voice being silenced but now I think he or his 'vetting system' must be a bit of an arrogant blockhead. If he, or his minions, have not thought of it already, it gets mocked and binned....and its messenger banned.

Try mentioning anything that does not have a great big 'SCIENTIST CERTIFIED' stamped on its head and you can expect to be mocked, ignored and rounded on by the pretentious little worms who obviously spend all day on there trying to attract the attention of their hero by using the word, 'scientific' at least three times in every sentence. It seems the aim of the forum is to be as obnoxious as possible to anyone who dares suggest anything even slightly 'leftfield' and to come across as more a geeky chemist in a white coat than a humanist. Again, that mentality can be compared very neatly with the Witch Hunts of days gone by. However, that fact will alude them or at least cause them cognitive dissonance.....'Oh Gawd, we are just like the people who burnt witches! No, we're not....we're amazing! Yes we are....no we're not!'. Yes you are.

Needless to say, I said 'blockhead' in a comment due to the horrendous blockhead mentality going on and BANG...I'm done for. Well, they didn't quibble over that decision did they?

The Richard Dawkins discussion page can at best be described as a very slowly changing and heavily vetted notice board of trivial points argued over by willfully ignorant meatheads with absolutely nothing challenging, novel or....in fact...debatable. It seems a debate is exactly what is not wanted on there. They've made their minds up and do not want to be bothered with the facts.

And I'm not alone in being dismayed at the lack of logic and reason afforded me by the RD Faction. Here is someone else who was nipped in the bud of challenging debate...

Now how much knowledge Dawkins himself may have of this censorship can of course hardly be determined by an outsider. Yet this is Dawkins’ official site. This quite despicably irrational activity is read more.

There seems to be a pattern appearing. You would have thought atheist websites or organisations would be very keen to hear from atheists who believed they had worked out part of the puzzle. Unfortunately, that is exactly the opposite to the reality faced by people like me. I you have something new to say to atheists they will hate you because they get a lot of self esteem from their badge and do not want their badge being demoted due to not being 'in the know'. They'd rather remain out of the know than to give someone a public platform and risk becoming yesterday's news. How pathetic! Maybe when I find a non-profit making website I will find the reception becomes better. After all, how many books would Richard sell if Gawd was exposed? How many hits to the Flying Spagetti Monster's sight would there be once the puzzle is solved? How many members of the various religious forums would sit arguing aimlessly for hours and hours with nothing new to say if the argument was resolved? Not a lot and the money would dry up faster than a river of water after a volcano induced tsumani. So far, the only atheists who have been keen to hear my ideas have been ex-Christians and they have, on the whole, believed in them too.

There aren't a great deal of honest critical thinkers in this world are there? Lots of people who claim they are but in fact they don't look at all the ideas, they don't assess them with open minds and they are certainly not prepared to alter their beliefs. Perish the thought! Anything but that! An Islamic take-over would be better but please please don't ask me to change my mind!

Richard Dawkins, and your minions, welcome to the dunce's list.....'Enemies of Free Speech'....which is what your organisation has been from the moment I contacted it one year ago! You may well go down in history as the man who claimed to want to bring 'Reason and Science' to the masses but who failed to be reasonable with other people trying to do the same.

Here is a copy of my first every message to you....which went unanswered....as did all the others....due to your blind faith in the total inaccuracy of the Bible causing you to discourage rational enquiry....


Hello,

Please forward this message to Richard Dawkins.

I believe Yahweh was volcanic activity. The Santorini volcanic eruption, dated around 1500BC, set off a change of natural events that affected the Jordan Rift Valley, a siesmic area where techtonic plates overlap. The Hebrews left Eqypt during the ensuing catastrophes (all ten plagues can be explained due to natural reactions after a volcano/plate shift).Mt Sinai was not in the Sinai Peninsular but in Saudi Arabia and the Hebrews travelled up the rift through Jordan and into Israel.

Here are some Bible verses that indicate god was just volcanoes, or lived inside volcanoes.....


Isaiah 30:27 See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.
Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
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Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One a flame; in a single day it will burn and consume his thorns and his briers.
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Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: "Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?"
Isaiah 66:15 See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you men of Judah and people of Jerusalem, or my wrath will break out and burn like fire because of the evil you have done--burn with no one to quench it.
Ezekiel 22:31 So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD."
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Daniel 7:10 A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.
Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.
Ezekiel 7:8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
Exodus 3:12 And God said, "I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain."
Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.
Revelation 11:19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.
Exodus 19:16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled.
2 Samuel 22:10 He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet.
Psalm 104:3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.
Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!
The blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords: who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power eternal. Amen" (1 Timothy 6:16, R.V.). (dwelling in light unapproachable)
"For ask now of the days that are past ... whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is? ... Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by trials (R.V. margin), by signs, and by wonders ... according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?" (Deuteronomy 4:32-34). (speaking out of the midst of the fire)
Exodus 19:3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain 9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. 12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. 13 there shall not a hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live. 16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, Rev. 4.5 and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. 18 And mount Si'nai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: Deut. 4.11, 12 and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

PSA 18:8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
ISA 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:
Isaiah: 5:26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly.
Revelations: 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Exodus: 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
•Matthew 13:50 “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth”
Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death – the lake of fire.
Matthew 13:42 Jesus Christ said the lost will finally be cast “into a furnace of fire.”
Matthew 3:12 John the Baptist said the lost will end up in “unquenchable fire.”

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Numbers 16:35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
1 Kings 18:38 Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.
Genesis 15:17And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. Leviticus 9:24And there came a fire out from before the LORD, and consumed upon the altar the burnt offering and the fat: which when all the people saw, they shouted, and fell on their faces. 1 Chronicles 21:26And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering. 2 Chronicles 7:1Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the LORD filled the house.
Hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire."
Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.
Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.
2 Samuel 22:9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.
Psalm 97:3 Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side.
Jeremiah 25:37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the LORD.
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Hebrews 10:27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
Hebrews 10:31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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2 Peter 3:7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Daniel 7:9 "As I looked, "thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
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Numbers 16:34 At their cries, all the Israelites around them fled, shouting, "The earth is going to swallow us too!"
Numbers 16.35 And fire came out from the LORD and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.
Revelation 11:5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
Leviticus 10:2 So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.
Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.
Numbers 26:10 The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them along with Korah, whose followers died when the fire devoured the 250 men. And they served as a warning sign.
Psalm 50:3 Our God comes and will not be silent; a fire devours before him, and around him a tempest rages.
 

Richard, I read that you, like me, feel instilling fear of hell into children is a form of abuse. Please go ahead and put your money where your mouth is and tell people there is no hell and that the lake of fire was, of course, a blazing volcano caldera. Let's see how much you really care about children.